Pangea Audio Ac 9se Mkii Signature Power Cable Review
Wow, a thousand bucks for a ability cablevision? Even $200 seems a fleck much to me for simply bringing the Ac from the wall outlet and into your amps. Sounds like y'all should be putting that Kimber up for sale and pocketing the difference...
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The AC-9SE is definitely the existent bargain, IMHO. I had wired my amps and regenerating power conditioner -- PS Audio P10 -- with the earlier AC-9 and tried one SE version (on the P10) just to encounter if I could tell the difference. There was plenty that I replaced all the AC-9s.
I'm assuming everyone knows not to use the burn-hose AC-ix/SE PCs on anything Only amps, every bit the manufacturer advises. The thinner AC-14SE power cords piece of work a lot better on preamps and source gear, once again IMHO.
Rlwainwright,
Yes, I am thinking putting the Kimber up for auction.
Dopogue,
This matter is addictive. Now I want to try out the Air-conditioning-14SE for my preamp just for the heck of it. I agree the Ac-9SE is fabricated for amps. The Ac-9SE is heavy and thick and I have to apply some rolled-upward card board to support the cables, particularly right below the IEC.
I'm using an AC9SE betwixt my VAC amp and a Shunyata Triton. It replaced a Nordost Brahma. The AC9SE did not audio very good straight out of the box (no highs, no lows, and recessed). It required some break-in time of effectually 20 hrs. Compared to the Brahma, it'southward actually better top and bottom, a bit leaner through the lower midrange.
Yep, then there is that big price difference. I too have wondered what the AC14SE would sound like on the preamp, but then in that location is that interruption-in time.
Rhljazz,
Interesting. I got a total different feel than yours with the Ac-9SE. Right out of the box, it was a bit rough and edgy on top. After two to 3 hours, it started mellowing out a fleck. Information technology was quite transaprent with skillful lows, mids and highs correct out of the box. I need to break it in more. Wonder how long it would take to actually suspension it in.
I bought the AC9SE on Elizabeth's recommendation at the regular Audio Advisor cost. Loved it right away. More taut bass, and quieter. Likewise very well made. Then Audio Advisor put them all on sale at 75% off. I bought two AC14SE cords for my pre and DAC. My ship has a captive string. Warning! At least in my arrangement, the AC14SE cords sounded so terrible at kickoff, I was fix to pack them upward and render them the beginning day.
I am glad that I didn't. Within 2 days, they were good, and within a week, I was very happy. Again, improvements in bass, quietness.
And so now, Elizabeth, I would like to return the favor with a recommendation that is also affordable. The Afterburner eight wall outlet at $80.00 from Avatar Acoustics. I was so skeptical, but and then curious. Long story short, the comeback is huge. far bigger and more dramatic than the cords, the AMR fuses, the EVS ground enhancers, even my Adona rack. Unreal. Like someone threw a bucket of water in your systems face and woke it up. What is ameliorate? I am not going to waste material words. Everything!
Peter from PBN needs to include this outlet in his upcoming comparison. Without a doubtfulness, (and I had plenty) information technology is the best $80.00 I ever spent on my rig.
What are the physical differences betwixt AC-9 and AC-9SE? Pangea website doesn't take any info about the 9SE. Has it been discontinued?
Pangea site doesn't have the latest information. You need to go to Sound Counselor. I believe both the Ac-ix and AC-9SE have the same concrete advent. Both are stiff and heavy. The SE has differenct construction inside. Bank check Sound Counselor for detail.
Audiolui,
Possibly the difference in burglary perception is due the type of amp it is showtime connected to. I purchased the 9SE when my summertime system was set upwards. And so, at that time it was continued to a W4S class D amp which likely presents a different load than a conventional amp or tube amp. Right now information technology is connected to the tube amp.
Rhljazz,
Is your 9SE broken in? If then, how long did information technology take you? I only have nigh 7 hours on it.
Audiolui,
My cable has many hundreds of hours on it now and I like it in this application. As I call up, it took at least 15 hours before in that location was any modify towards the better.
I would try a Pangea ability cord united nations my Threshold SL10 preamp, but I'm undecided whether to buy the 9 or 14 ... which of them would be fine every bit well equally on the pre, even on my poweramp Threshold sa4/e?...
Alanino,
The 14 for the pre, and the 9 for the amp.
Jay Victor, President and CEO of Pangea is former technical director at Monster Cablevision.
Thoughts?
I am an esoteric tweak skeptic, as some hither would likely adjure to, I recently bought a Pangea AC14SE, to replace a fraying former power cord for my DAC, new for less than $100 and I have been very happy with information technology. It does seem to have lower noise and distortion equally advertised and is congenital like a tank to-boot. See my system description for more details if interested.
Just last week I added some other for the DAC in my 2nd system with seemingly similar results I would say.
Tweaks that help proceed power clean seldom have a downside, just a thing of how much up case by case. Digital related noise in detail is a trouble worth addressing. Pangea does it quite clearly and effectively I would say.
Would like to try the ac9SE for my power amps someday, just feeling no real demand quite yet.
I have the Pangea 9SE ability cords connecting my Classé CA-M600 monoblocks, I ordered the one meter lengths and that was a mistake because they are also brusque! These cables are the equivalent of 7 gauge wire; very thick and stiff therefore the connections tend to slip out of the wall receptacles and must be supported. otherwise a groovy cablevision
Cjcomo,
And so true! I made that mistake once and had to return it for the one.5 meter length. They are stiff and the plugs don't similar turning corners. Just aye, I agree that they are a very adept value.
Pangea are good value for the money -- only no more than that, IMO.
Fleck of an update:
I similar(d) the AC9SE on my MF Tri-Vista; extra bass, clear midrange, and dainty treble.
One knock that I noticed was just a slight scrap of upper midrange glare, actually only noticeable at high volumes.
The second 'knock', if you can call information technology that, is that the bass, although full and deep, can be a fiddling bit too loose - again at college volumes.
Finally, the soundstage is pretty proficient, but loses a bit of composure and frequency 'continuity' in comparing to better cords.
I recently, like yesterday, replaced the 9se with the Cullen Crossover PC sold on here.
Equally big an upgrade as anything I've heard in twoscore years.
And the 9se was non bad.
The air conditioning-9se is now in mk II version - how can y'all tell a mk1 from a mk2? Looks similar they look the same?
I volition sell my Stealth V12 and get one.
I'yard waiting to receiver a Pangea 14SE MkII, I'm curious as to whether there will be any differences. A few years ago I made a diy cablevision but it didn't actually exercise anything for me.
Runnin, permit us know what you think of the 14 SE MkII .
Sure, at this point I've had it on the Oppo 95 for a day. Owners say to permit information technology break in somewhat and so I'm going to give it a calendar week or more, right off the bat I couldn't really hear any improvements.
About 9 hours on the PC now, and from what I've read you need a skillful 20 hours. At this point I'thousand hearing a very subtle improvement over the stock Oppo cord. I also took some gilded plated brass banana plugs out of the betoken path am am using blank speaker wire, Audioquest Type 4. That and deOxit all connections has given me more than meridian end than I had.
Another matter is my system seems faster now, am I crazy? The beginning of one song chosen He Won't get(Adele, 21. - forgive me!) starts off with a drum pb in, and the bass drum has always seemed a fleck slow, like the drummer couldn't quite hit the foot pedal on time for the rapid beat out. Except now it seems better though non perfect yet. Anyone else find this?
I'g still hearing no difference after about 12-13 hours, I tried it on my preamp too. I'one thousand beginning to lose promise, merely zero ventured, nada gained in this example maybe.
One affair, I proceed reading from the science crowd how you tin can't trust your ears, and purchase bias, and sight bias, and whatever other bias volition crusade to to accept the event you lot desire. I call BS in my case. I really wanted to hear a difference and idea I was going to. Merely I but listened, and compared and have found zilch.
Previously I take been floored past the difference in sound when I swapped in new speaker cables, but in this case, cypher. I'll keep going to the 20 hour mark, and study back then. Out.
How-do-you-do Runnin - I'thou not sure which other cable yous are comparing the 14SEII. Would you mind clarifying? I've got a number of 1st gen 14SEs in my arrangement and have been curious about the MkII. Thanks.
Certain, I was comparing the stock cable that came with the oppo 95 and the stock cable that came with the Parasound Halo P7.
Caelin Gabriel, Shunyata's designer, warns that you might well not hear a difference if installing a single cord of his in a organization, that the whole organisation needs to outfitted with his cords to hear the improvement they afford. Speaking of afford, that could entail a lot of coin!
Hmm. Well, I'd need to buy 2 more at 60 or and so a pop. I'd be willing to practice that, simply first I'd like to run dedicated lines to the stereo, and that's not inexpensive. I found out my treadmill is on the same excursion every bit the stereo.
For what it'due south worth, I got the ameliorate Pangea cords, and I noticed a bigger difference when I changed the outlet than the cords.
Even the string makers admit a dedicated line is the identify to get-go in improving the power to a arrangement, and that it will provide a bigger improvement than high-performance cords.
You know what? In my instance, the panel is on the aforementioned wall as my arrangement and wall outlets, and nearly xv feet away. But alas, there is no room in the panel for another breaker. I'd have to purchase a larger panel with more breaker spaces. a lot of work and a lot of wall board, paint, etc. Still I'd exercise it if I had the time, the things we do for love of sound!
Simply an update on the Pangea 14SE MkII. Recently I was experimenting with the Nad C326BEE and various stand mountain speakers I've acquired. On a whim, I swapped in the Pangea cord on the Nad, and instantly heard an improved bass response. I was somewhat surprised as I had heard little comeback every bit outlined earlier in this thread, just the deviation was easy to pick out.
I bought the SE 14Se for my CD thespian Yamaha 1000sacd never look back
Did anyone tried the Pangea AC nine MKll even so ???
Upgrading power cords is a big divergence in sound quality. A friend of mine bought a Pangea pc, after I explained the difference a good pc volition make, and he is thrilled with it, especially for the price.
I have had a positive feel with Pangea'south ability cables and power strip in getting control over excessive sibilance (Sssss sounds) and plosives (such as the letter "T").
I swapped out the power cords on my DAC and amplifier with Pangea 14SE Mk II and 9SE Mk II cables. And I swapped out my Panamax surge protector for a Pangea Quattro Premier XL power strip for my DAC and reclocker. I also added a Pangea 9SE Mk II ability cord to the Pangea power strip.
These Pangea products significantly increased clarity right out of the box. So, after around 120 hours, I noticed that sibilance and plosives sounded shelved down a little while at the same time a lot more than natural on the tracks that had suffered from that problem. Examples: Gillian Welch's Boots No. 2 albums and Simon & Garfunkel's Midweek 3 a.m. album.
I played the 20 or so tracks in my playlist that had excessive sibilance or plosives, and only ane still had a chip too much. The others are all fine now.
It is such a joy to be able to listen to these tracks without annoying sibilance and plosives. Also, with the increased clarity I am noticing more details and vocals are easier to understand.
Pangea power cords and power strip are some of the best bang for the cadet audiophile products I take tried.
I had been using Audition Forte 3 power cords on my DAC and amp, and while there they added a beautiful, nighttime graphic symbol with more lower midrange and upper bass accent, they did not reduce sibilance and plosives every bit much every bit the Pangea products did. The Audience cables found a good home, though, replacing the stock power cords on my GoldenEar Triton 3+ speakers and my subwoofers.
I am assuming that ability cords matter more than in some systems than with other ones. The divergence is night and solar day obvious with my system.
I noticed some sibilance and plosives again today. It happened for the first threescore to 65 minutes of playing music from a cold start.
Then, I replayed the same music and noticed the excessive sibilance and plosives had abated to the point that they were no longer offensive.
So, I think that the tubes in my integrated tubes pre/ solid state amp demand warm upward for about 70 minutes. Cables can besides need a warm upwards, and and so they may be part of the issue.
My solution from now on volition exist to play mellow music that does not accept any sibilance or plosives for 70 minutes after a cold start. Then I tin can play whatever I want.
I still maintain that the Pangea power cables significantly increased clarity. But now I am not and then sure that they reduced sibilance and plosives.
You people talking about all this sibilance issues in your systems ought to effort and supersede and sandcast resistors, put some prissy caps in your tweeter circuits. Thats what really helps with that. Yous may detect it's not the string but a deficiency in your speakers.
Source: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/impressed-by-pangea-audio-ac-9se
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